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Pastor Carl Swarr and his family were in ATI for 28 years, and they continue to attend Family Conferences even though their children are grown. In this video, Pastor Swarr explains to Bob Newhouse how meditating on the Word of God was their key focus all the years they were in the ATI Program. This is what impacted his family more than anything else ATI offered. The importance of meditation is emphasized in this short interview with a man who practices it diligently.